Lifetime of object which has vacuous initialization

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Current draft standard says (previous standards have similar wording) in [basic.life/1]:

The lifetime of an object or reference is a runtime property of the object or reference. An object is said to have non-vacuous initialization if it is of a class or aggregate type and it or one of its subobjects is initialized by a constructor other than a trivial default constructor. [ Note: Initialization by a trivial copy/move constructor is non-vacuous initialization. — end note ] The lifetime of an object of type T begins when:

(1.1) storage with the proper alignment and size for type T is obtained, and

(1.2) if the object has non-vacuous initialization, its initialization is complete,

See this code:

alignas(int) char obj[sizeof(int)];

Does basic.life/1 mean that here an int (and several other types, which has the same or less alignment/size requirements as int) has begun its lifetime?

What does this even mean? If an object has begun its lifetime, is it created? [intro.object/1] says:

[...] An object is created by a definition ([basic.def]), by a new-expression, when implicitly changing the active member of a union ([class.union]), or when a temporary object is created ([conv.rval], [class.temporary]) [...]

So, according to this, my obj (as an int) is not created. But its lifetime as an int (and as other, possibly infinite-type vacuously-initializable objects) has started.

I'm confused, can you give a clarification on this?

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You cannot begin the lifetime of a object unless the object has been created. And [intro.object]/1 defines the only ways in which objects can be created:

An object is created by a definition (6.1), by a new-expression (8.3.4), when implicitly changing the active member of a union (12.3), or when a temporary object is created (7.4, 15.2).

The object created by this definition is of type char[]. Therefore, that is the only object whose lifetime begins. And no other objects are created by this construct.

To lend credence to this interpretation, the proposal for C++20 P0593 exists whose primary purpose is to allow that very declaration to implicitly create other such objects.

Comments:

The condition in (1.2) still bothers me. Why is it there?

It is there because it cannot say "the initialization is complete" for an object that doesn't undergo initialization.

suppose, that I have a new(obj) int afterwards. That clearly creates an int object. But before that, obj has obtained the necessary storage.

No, the declaration of obj obtained storage for an object of type char[]. What obtains storage for the int object being created is new(obj). Yes, the placement-new expression obtains storage for the object that it creates. Just like a declaration of a variable obtains storage for the object it creates.

Just because that storage happens to exist already doesn't mean it isn't being obtained.

user_7340690

I interpret

The lifetime of an object of type T begins when...

to mean

Given that a program creates an object of T, the following describes when that object's lifetime is said to begin...

and not

If the following conditions are satisfied, then an object of type T exists, and its lifetime begins when...

That is, there's an implicit additional condition that the object is "created" in some way described in [intro.object]/1. But the paragraph [basic.life]1/ does not mean to by itself imply that any object exist, only one of the properties of objects that do exist.

So for your declaration, the text describes the beginning of the lifetimes of one object of type char[sizeof(int)] and one or more objects of type char (even if the declaration is a statement in a block scope and there is no initialization), but since there is no object of type int implied to exist, we won't say anything about the lifetime of such an object.

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Because the Standard deliberately refrains from requiring that all implementations be suitable for all purposes, it will often be necessary for quality implementations intended for various purposes to guarantee the behavior of code over which the Standard itself would impose no requirements.

If some type T supports implicit object creation and a program converts the address of some object to a T*, a high-quality implementation which is intended to support low-level programming concepts without requiring special syntax will behave as though such conversion creates an object of type T in cases where that would allow the program to have defined behavior, but would not implicitly create such objects is cases where doing so would not be necessary but would instead result in Undefined Behavior by destroying other objects.

Thus, if float and uint32_t are the same size and have the same alignment requirements, then given e.g.

alignas(uint32_t) char obj[sizeof(uint32_t)];

float *fp = (float*)obj;
*fp = 1.0f;
uint32_t *up = (uint32_t*)obj;

The initialization of fp would create a float because that would be needed to make the assignment to *fp work. If up will be used in a fashion that would require a uint32_t to exist there, the assignment to up could create one while destroying the float that was there. If up isn't used in such a fashion, but fp is used in a way that would require that the float still exist, that float would still exist. If both pointers are used in ways that would require that the respective objects still exist, even a quality compiler intended for low-level programming might be incapable of handling that possibility.

Note that implementations which are not particularly suitable for low-level programming may not support the semantics described here. The authors of the Standard allows compiler writers to support such semantics or not, based upon whether they are necessary for their compilers' intended purposes; unfortunately, there is not as yet any standard way to distinguish compilers that are suitable for such purposes from those that aren't.

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